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Re: Jeff’s experimental 100% fruit diet
« Reply #630 on: March 21, 2012, 01:23:03 pm »

Hi Jeff,

I can relate to not wanting to vote. I've been mostly apolitical for most of my adult life---for basically the same reasons  you gave. Since the early 80s, I have suspected that politics is even more crooked than it appears on TV, and that most politicians are puppets whose strings are being pulled by the same puppet masters.

2008 was the first time I voted! At first, I noticed Obama, but quickly started to suspect that he was just another puppet of the military industrial complex. I guess that is where Ron Paul really stood out for me. I don't agree with everything he says, but there seems to be a sort of sage-like purity about him. His words seem very consistent with his actions, which is extremely rare for a politician. In fact, as I'm reading Walden, I can't help but think that Ron Paul seems to be attempting (the perhaps impossible) task of putting some of Thoreau's ideas into practical application.  And yes, this might be like trying to reform the KKK.   :)

RE Ron Paul's religious beliefs and evolution, I don't know, you might be right, but he is also a strict constitutionalist, and has strongly supported the strict separation of church and state, and as long as he sticks to that principle, his religious beliefs don't bother me. RE immigration, I have never heard him say he is against it. I have heard him voice his disapproval of illegal aliens, but he simply says they should just immigrate through proper channels, rather than  staying here illegally at the expense of tax payers.


And now, if you don't mind, I'd like to ask you a food question. I guess I should just start a another post, but what the heck.  As I look at your weekly posts, I continue to be fascinated by the simplicity of your diet. I would love to be able to eat just fruit, if I thought I could get away with it. My two main concerns, of course, are minerals and fats. I think I can get sufficient minerals by paying attention to quality and  selecting fruits that are mineral rich. However, the fats are my main concern. Do you ever have concerns about getting sufficient fats, specially omega-3 and 6? And have you ever had any inner signals that you might need more fat than you get from the foods you now eat?

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« Reply #631 on: March 22, 2012, 02:43:19 am »

Thanks for your political / Ron Paul comments.  The last time I had "overt" fat was in November 2008.  It has been so long since I had any fatty food that I pretty much stopped worrying about it.  Some fruits, like dates, are indeed very low fat.  But others, like tomatoes & pomegranates I believe, do have a significantly higher fat content (although not high enough to be considered "overt"). 

I have crunched the numbers before to estimate my daily consumption of essential fats, and decided then that I was probably getting enough.  And physically, I feel great.  The past couple months I've started exercising more, and have gotten stronger, despite my very simple diet.  It would be interesting for me to get a blood test.  I will be talking at the Woodstock Fruit Festival, and was thinking it might be good if I got a blood test before then and went over my results during my talk at the festival. 
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« Reply #632 on: March 22, 2012, 02:06:38 pm »

Thanks, Jeff, that's great news for me.

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« Reply #633 on: March 25, 2012, 04:08:18 pm »

All of the food this week was organic and it was all consumed whole (no juicing, no blending, as usual):

3/19 – 1 pineapple, 2 pomegranates, 15 bananas.
3/20 – 1 pineapple, 2 pomegranates, dates.
3/21 – 1 pineapple, 2 pomegranates, dates.
3/22 – 1 pineapple, 2 pomegranates, dates.
3/23 – 1 pineapple, 2 pomegranates, dates.
3/24 – tomatoes.
3/25 – tomatoes.

I had a mono-tomato weekend.  I wrote this up for my facebook page this week, and put it here too (it's too long...I need to split it into two posts): 

Deciding which vaccinations to give a child is one of the more important choices that a parent has to face.  Below is a fairly objective analysis of the pros and cons.  I have a strong background as a scientist, although what I know about immunology has been self-taught.  Unlike many scientifically-minded people, I’ve actually spent some time listening to the claims of those in the anti-vaccine camp, so I will address some of their arguments.  There are two issues to consider: vaccine efficacy and vaccine safety.  Allopathic medical doctors are generally taught in school that vaccines are both effective and safe.  Chiropractors, on the other hand, are generally taught in school that vaccines are neither effective nor safe.  This is a controversial issue, and I know I have a lot of facebook friends on both sides of it. 

Let’s cover efficacy first.  I believe that vaccines are indeed effective at reducing the rate of disease incidence.  Here are three reasons why I think so.  First, vaccines operate by a well understood biological mechanism.  Some of those opposed to vaccination will go so far as to doubt whether many of the diseases widely regarded as infectious are actually due to a replicating microorganism (for example, some chiropractors claim all symptoms are due to misalignment of the spine, and also there is “AIDS denialism”: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIDS_denialism ).  They speculate that environmental contaminants or lifestyle factors may be the true cause of diseases which are regarded by the scientific community as being infectious.  The difference between a toxic chemical and a microbe is that microbes reproduce.  Microbes can be spread from person to person without dilution, unlike chemicals.  When the scientific community regards a disease as infectious there is good evidence to indicate that this is indeed the case.  So, with that out of the way, let’s move on.  When a foreign organism enters the body, white blood cells make proteins called antibodies which recognize and immobilize the infectious agent.  After the infection is defeated, long-lived memory B cells and memory T cells remain, on the lookout for that same organism, so that it can be recognized and defeated more quickly the second time.  Most people in the anti-vaccine crowd do not dispute this basic mechanism, because they will acknowledge it is responsible for the “acquired immunity” obtained naturally after one develops a case of chicken pox. 

Second, casual observations of populations indicate that infectious disease is less prevalent than what it used to be, and vaccines are the best explanation for aspects of this observation.  In addition to making observations of human populations, this has also occurred with domesticated animals (with rabies, etc.).  Smallpox has been eradicated, due in large part to the vaccine.  The disease literally no longer exists.  Vaccine opponents will usually respond to observations like this in a couple different ways.  The first thing they will say is that since medical doctors believe that vaccines are effective, the doctors will stop looking for cases of a disease after use of that vaccine has become widespread (this is the so-called “expectation bias”).  Also, anti-vacciners say suspicious symptoms will often be reclassified as a different disease after introduction of the vaccine, to give the impression to the public that the vaccine is having its intended effect.  They’ll say this was the case with polio, for example.  The second response to this casual observation that vaccine opponents will make is that the drop in the disease rate has been due to improvements in public sanitation, hygiene, etc.  To back this up, they will display graphs like this http://www.vaclib.org/sites/debate/web1.html, indicating that the death rate was falling for years prior to the introduction of the vaccine.  A response to these objections can go like this.  The chicken pox vaccine has only been available in the US since 1995. Since then, casual observations indicate the rate of chicken pox has dropped dramatically in this country. The argument that the drop in disease rate has been due to improvements in public sanitation, hygiene, etc. doesn't seem to explain the drop in chicken pox in the US since 1995. This indicates that the vaccine has been effective in reducing the rate of disease incidence.  Also, I think nearly everyone would agree that the number of children walking around with chicken pox symptoms has dropped since 1995, and so the “expectation bias”, pertaining to those in the health care industry biased in favor of vaccinations, would seem to be less applicable here.  And, the counterargument to the plots in the vaclib link goes like this: it's not surprising that mortality has fallen independent of vaccination rates. Medicine got better at treating severe complications and fewer people died. However if you look at incidence plots there is an obvious downward inflection with the introduction of vaccines.  Here it is for measles, for example: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/6mishome.htm.  The vaccine opponents might respond with something like this quote from the well known Dr. Robert S. Mendelsohn: “In 1958 there were about 800,000 cases of measles in the United States, but by 1962-the year before a vaccine appeared-the number of cases had dropped by 300,000.”  It is quite clear from the CDC plot in the link that this is a true statement, but misleading. 

Third, and most importantly, there is a tremendous amount of scientific evidence indicating that vaccines are effective.  An excellent website for investigating the scientific studies done on vaccines is pubmed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/).  Literally thousands of studies on vaccines can be found there.  Here is one: http://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa051016.  This is a double-blind, placebo-controlled study which measured the rate of disease incidence.  The fact that the study was done in this manner is very important.  Many vaccine studies measure antibody formation and not the rate of disease incidence, for ethical and financial reasons.  But vaccine opponents usually don’t find antibody formation in the experimental group to be particularly compelling, due partly to the fact that the body will clearly mount a response any time foreign particles are injected into the blood, and also because antibodies do not always correlate with protection from disease (for example, an increase in the number of HIV antibodies made in the body implies that HIV is progressing).  The “gold standard” in medical research is the double-blind placebo-controlled study. There is a control group which gets the placebo, and an experimental group which gets the vaccine, and neither the patients nor their physicians know who is in which group.  Only a minority of the vaccine studies are of this type.  Anyway, the study in the link above found that the vaccinated group had a lower rate of disease incidence than the control group. So, to me, this seems pretty conclusive proof that this particular vaccine is indeed effective at decreasing the rate of incidence for this particular disease.  When presented with a study like this, those who claim that vaccines are ineffective will question the contents of the placebo and also point out the financial incentive for those performing the study and say that there may have been fraud.  These are things worth looking into, but, when presented with thousands of studies of this sort, I think an objective individual cannot hold the position that vaccines are ineffective at reducing the rate of disease incidence (vaccinated people can still get the disease – no vaccine provides complete protection, but there is a reduced chance of getting it).     

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« Reply #634 on: March 25, 2012, 04:08:36 pm »

So, what about the safety?  Vaccines contain a number of potentially harmful substances. Mercury has gotten the most bad press in recent years, and fortunately it has finally been removed from most vaccines.  However, the drug company Merck knew in 1991 that the mercury in vaccines was about 87 times the daily maximum thought to be safe when taken orally (http://articles.latimes.com/2005/feb/08/business/fi-vaccine8), but this was not publically disclosed until almost 10 years later.  The mercury was finally removed in about 2002.  Knowing that drug companies have withheld information indicating that their vaccines are harmful in the past, let’s diligently look at the current contents of vaccines.  Many vaccines contain human & animal tissues. Yes, they are screened, however, there remains the potential for tiny infectious agents (prions, or whatever) to pass through.  This might sound paranoid, but it has happened before, with SV40 from monkeys, a contaminant in the old polio vaccine, which has been associated with cancer: http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/160/4/317.full , http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11897278, http://www.virology.ws/2010/04/13/poliovirus-vaccine-sv40-and-human-cancer/.  Furthermore, voluntarily injecting animal tissue into humans is suspicious for another reason: many human infectious diseases evolved from diseases in our domesticated animals (The common cold came from horses.  Influenza came from ducks.  Tuberculosis came from goats.  Measles & smallpox came from cows.  Whooping cough came from pigs.  See http://birdflubook.com/resources/Greger_2007_CRM_33(4)_243.pdf ).  Formaldehyde, used as a preservative in many vaccines, is a known carcinogen. Polysorbate 80 is contained in many vaccines, and has been associated with anaphylactic shock (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16400901 ).  And MSG is used in some vaccines. It can damage nerve tissue (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamic_acid_(flavor)#Excitotoxicity ). 

Aluminum is used as an “adjuvant” in many vaccines.  I find the story with the presence of aluminum in vaccines to be important, and so it gets its own paragraph.  To be honest, when I first thoroughly investigated the vaccine issue when my wife was pregnant about three and a half years ago, what I learned about the aluminum content in vaccines frightened me.  Aluminum is well-known to cause neurologic harm. Has anyone determined the safe level of aluminum when it is injected into the muscle tissue of infants? The answer is "no" (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235057 ).  No one has ever measured the levels of aluminum absorption into the bloodstream, and then excretion into the urine, when it is injected in this way.  Adjuvants are added to vaccines to stimulate the immune response.  The metallic composition of the Earth’s crust, by volume, in decreasing order is: aluminum, iron, calcium, sodium, potassium, magnesium, and then followed by some other lesser ones.  The interesting thing here is every metal in the top six, except aluminum, is required for life.  Aluminum has no physiologic role in life.  Given the fact that it is the most abundant metal in the crust, one would expect it to.  This observation causes one to suspect that there may be something biologically harmful about this element (and there is, in the short run - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9164811, and perhaps in the long run - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070831210302.htm, http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/009841096161104 ).  So why is this suspicious metal used as an adjuvant?  For two reasons, first, it works stimulating the immune response, although the mechanism isn’t well understood (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20153253 ).  Second, because it is so prevalent, it is very cheap.  Without the public demanding it (as was done with mercury), there is little incentive for producers to remove the aluminum when there is only suspicion, not proof, that it is harmful at the levels injected into babies.  But, there is good reason to be concerned about this.  According to the FDA (http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=201.323), those with impaired kidney function should get no more than 4 to 5 micrograms per kilogram of bodyweight per day of aluminum in their IV solution, which would be a maximum of 10 to 20 micrograms per day for a newborn.  This is alarming because a newborn getting the recommended hepatitis B injection at birth is getting 225-500 micrograms of aluminum (the amount depends on the brand, http://www.chop.edu/service/vaccine-education-center/hot-topics/aluminum.html, and comparing the amount of injected aluminum to amounts eaten with food as they do at this link is not a valid comparison, since only 0.3% is absorbed when taken orally - http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/165315-overview ), and the amount of injected aluminum keeps going up from there if the standard vaccination schedule is followed (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/downloads/child/0-6yrs-schedule-pr.pdf ).  Granted, this is going into the muscle, and not directly into the blood, and most full-term newborns probably have better functioning kidneys than those people studied by the FDA to arrive at the 5 micrograms per kilogram of bodyweight per day limit.  The problem is that studies examining aluminum absorption into the bloodstream via this route have not been done, to my knowledge, and I have done an extensive search for this.  Parents are well justified in asking for vaccine brands with a lower aluminum content and in perhaps postponing the high aluminum vaccines until the child has gained some additional weight, if they choose to give them at all. 

Vaccines can have both short-term and long-term side effects. The short-term side effects are better understood. Quite commonly, vaccines cause vomiting, diarrhea, headaches, rashes, etc. More rarely, they may cause Guillain-Barre syndrome, encephalitis, SIDS, paralysis, and vision problems.  More information about these can be found on the vaccine product inserts (http://www.immunize.org/packageinserts/ ).  The long-term side effects may include autism (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250, http://cogforlife.org/ratajczakstudy.pdf ), ADHD, learning disorders, and autoimmune diseases (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9115571).  All of these seem more prevalent now than they did 20 years ago, perhaps due to the increased number of vaccinations given today. 

Here are some more links related to vaccine safety:
In 2011, it was reported that there were many more cases of adverse reactions to the measles vaccine than there were cases of measles: http://therefusers.com/refusers-newsroom/6-times-more-measles-vaccine-adverse-reaction-reports-than-measles-cases-in-2011/.   
For Hep B, the risk of a serious vaccine reaction may be 100 times greater than the risk of contracting Hep B: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/01/02/hepatitis-b-vaccine-part-four.aspx.
A correlation was found between higher numbers of infant vaccinations and increased infant mortality (although, to be fair, I do believe that there have been other, similar studies which found no correlation): http://het.sagepub.com/content/30/9/1420.  If this correlation holds up, a potential explanation for it is here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2785591.  The HIB vaccine is known to suppress the immune system in the first week after injection, leaving infants more susceptible to infection during those days.   
Infant deaths in Japan caused the suspension of two vaccines: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-japan-baby-vaccines-deaths.html.
The CDC admits vaccines can trigger symptoms of autism: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/cnn-cdc-and-some-truth_b_94040.html
The nation of Finland says the swine flu vaccine causes narcolepsy: http://www.naturalnews.com/033816_swine_flu_vaccines_neurological_disorders.html.
Flu vaccine recall: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2054160/300-000-doses-flu-vaccine-Preflucel-withdrawn-alert-effects.html.
Vaccines are known to cause cancer in cats: http://www.theledger.com/article/20120218/COLUMNISTS/202185001
The esteemed Dr. Maurice Hilleman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Hilleman) had some disturbing things to say in an interview about vaccine safety in the 1950s (information not released to the public at the time): http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=13EAAF22CDA367BB3C2F94D2CD90EF7B.  I fully acknowledge that vaccines today are quite a bit safer than what they were then. 
The vast majority of cases of polio in India today are a result of the oral polio vaccine, and not the wild polio virus: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1120116/jsp/frontpage/story_15011108.jsp.  It must be mentioned, however, that the oral polio vaccine is not used in the United States.  Most Western countries inject a dead polio virus, without this risk. 
Younger doctors are less likely to believe that vaccines are safe: http://children.webmd.com/vaccines/news/20111021/survey-younger-doctors-more-skeptical-of-vaccines.

No honest physician would ever claim that vaccines have no risk.  Nevertheless, it is worrisome that there are no studies on the long-term effects of vaccines, particularly when taken in large numbers, as kids are asked to today (for example I was vaccinated against seven diseases in the late 70s / early 80s, but now the number recommended is about 16).  The financial incentive of the drug companies to carry out long-term studies of this sort is small as long as most parents continue to vaccinate.  Yes, pretty much all medical interventions and definitely all drugs have side effects.  The difference between vaccines and most other drugs is that vaccines are given to healthy people.  Thus, a much smaller rate of side effects are tolerable.  The burden of proof is on the drug companies to demonstrate the safety of vaccines.   When it comes to the flu, the two options drug companies have are vaccines and anti-virals.  The most popular anti-viral is Tamiflu.  If one looked at the Tamiflu study a few years ago, one would have thought that it was a good idea to take. But then it was shown that the study was flawed, and in fact fraudulent (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2009/12/the-truth-about-tamiflu/7801/).  A degree of skepticism when it comes to things of this sort seems warranted. 
 
When choosing whether or not to give a particular vaccine, lifestyle factors are a consideration.  A baby staying with a parent at home is quite a bit less likely to attract a contagious disease than one in a daycare setting.  There are also some natural ways to strengthen a child’s defenses: breastfeeding (breastmilk contains protective antibodies providing “passive immunity”, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22106709 ), eating fruits and vegetables (contain antioxidants - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22111516, and vitamin A appears to have a protective effect with measles - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21868478 ), sunshine exposure (due to the production of vitamin D, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16959053 ), moderate exercising (http://my.clevelandclinic.org/disorders/chronic_fatigue_syndrome/hic_diet_exercise_stress_and_the_immune_system.aspx ), letting them play in the dirt (see the “hygiene hypothesis”, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hygiene_hypothesis ), co-sleeping (due to the oxytocin released from the skin-to-skin contact, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21215526 ), and minimizing exposure to smoke (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22363418 ) and other unnatural chemicals in the environment (thus choosing organic foods is likely better).  Natural approaches, like these, have been subject to an observational study of approximately 10 million years in length.  One can compare this to vaccines, which had their origins with Jenner’s work in the late 1700’s on smallpox.  For this reason, in addition to the fact that these natural approaches don’t carry the negative side effects that drugs do, it is reasonable to ask that vaccines pass a more stringent test for us to accept them than these more natural approaches.  Unfortunately, the degree to which these natural approaches protect against diseases for which there is a vaccine is not known.  Here is an informal survey finding unvaccinated kids tend to be healthier (yes, there is likely a reporting bias here, and yes, unvaccinated kids do tend to come from families which are more health conscious, but still I include it since it seems relevant): http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/survey-results-are-unvaccinated-children-healthier/, http://www.vaccineinjury.info/vaccinations-in-general/health-unvaccinated-children/survey-results-illnesses.html .  Unfortunately, a more scientific study of this sort has never been done (many in the anti-vaccine crowd say this is because the government & drug companies are afraid of what the result would be).   
 
I feel that, in order to be a responsible parent, each one of the 16 or so child vaccinations should be considered separately.  Some of the vaccines are likely more dangerous than others as far as safety is concerned.  And the negative effects of vaccines would increase the more vaccines that are given.  It seems the negative effects are worse the younger the child is (due to bodyweight), and so delaying vaccinations, rather than not giving them at all, is an option.  For example, Dr. Donald Miller, a cardiac surgeon and professor of surgery at the University of Washington, recommends no vaccinations until the child is two years old.  After that he advises that vaccines be administered one at a time, every six months, in an effort to minimize any negative impact they may have.  When the number of serious adverse reactions to the vaccine is larger than the number of cases of the actual disease in a population, and the severity of the adverse reactions is comparable or worse than the severity of the disease itself, and when one is mindful of other factors such as the potential unreported cases of adverse reactions and of the potential unreported cases of disease as well as the potential long term consequences of both, then I think a rational individual is well justified in questioning the utility of the vaccine at that moment (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3096132).  Incidence rates of disease vary over space and time, and it is important for parents to keep up to date on this, as much as possible. 
 
And there is a lot more to it than this.  I feel that this post, although long, is just scratching the surface.  There are many other factors which I didn’t address here, such as: no vaccine provides complete immunity and immunity often decreases over time (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/19/whooping-cough-vaccine-three-years_n_970139.html ), there are different strains of some of the diseases and the vaccine is often only effective against some of the strains, the diseases tend to become more or less serious as the child ages, the pneumococcal and haemophilus meningitis bacteria are part of the normal flora of a lot of people so unlike chicken-pox and measles you can't rely on herd immunity for these, the distinction between humoral and cell-mediated immunity (vaccines are generally better at providing humoral immunity than cell-mediated immunity, whereas natural exposure does a better job at providing both - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3238379/pdf/nihms343066.pdf, http://www.cell.com/trends/microbiology/abstract/S0966-842X(06)00250-2, http://immunology.medicine.dal.ca/bookcase/vaccines.htm ), and of course I haven’t gone into the specifics of each disease (its prevalence, its severity, its transmission, effectiveness of that vaccine, etc.), but these data are available.  Some of the diseases, like chicken pox, become more dangerous as children get older.  Suppose a child isn’t given the chicken pox vaccine, and doesn’t develop chicken pox as a child.  In this case, as an early teen the child can be given “titer” (a blood test) to see whether or not they happened to be exposed to the disease enough during childhood to acquire immunity.  If not, the parents can choose to vaccinate at that time.  Other places for vaccine information, besides google and pubmed, are the Centers for Disease Control (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/index.html) and the National Vaccine Information Center (http://www.nvic.org/).  The Morbidity Mortality Weekly Report at the CDC is a great place to read about current infectious disease trends (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/).   Information regarding diseases in other countries can be found here http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/ (useful if travelling).  To repeat myself: each vaccine needs to be considered separately.  I urge parents to read about the issue on their own, and not blindly follow the advice of their pediatrician.  I have talked to three different pediatricians about many of the issues regarding vaccinations that I have mentioned here.  In each case much of it was new to them.   

I am opposed to any proposed system of mandatory vaccination.  I strongly feel that it is an individual right to choose.  A couple months ago, I sketched a framework for secular ethics on my facebook page.  Within that framework, mandatory vaccination is clearly unethical.  Furthermore, the fact that vaccines are currently voluntary is an incentive to vaccine manufacturers to continually strive to improve the safety of their product.  Were vaccines to be forced, that progress would slow or stop.  For example, if vaccination rates started to fall significantly because of fears of aluminum, the drug companies would either do the aluminum safety research or find a safer adjuvant.  This happened before, with mercury.  Removing the aluminum from vaccines would be more difficult than removing the mercury, because mercury was not used as an adjuvant, and thus the manufacturers would likely need a big incentive from the consumers in order to make the change.  It is often argued that society as a whole would be better off if everyone vaccinated (the utilitarian argument).  However, it is not clear that this would really be the case if they were forced to do so, due to this effect of slowing improvements in safety.  And philosophically, it is my argument that the initiation of the use of force will always result in a net long-term decrease in overall happiness.  I’ve written about this before on my facebook page.   

When it comes to the issue of social responsibility, insights can be gleaned from the branch of mathematics known as “game theory” (http://www.pnas.org/content/101/36/13391.full.pdf, http://www.math.psu.edu/treluga/Reluga06MBS.pdf, http://opim.wharton.upenn.edu/risk/downloads/05-10-HK.pdf ). Unvaccinated kids benefit from "herd immunity" (the protection of all the vaccinated kids around them) without risking taking the vaccines themselves. Is this selfish? I don’t think so, because not vaccinating will stimulate improvements in vaccine safety.  Plus, outbreaks can still occur even in a completely vaccinated population (see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3821823 ), so it’s not like the unvaccinated kids can always be blamed for that.  Of course, if you’re going to delay / skip some vaccines, I think it would be better if you did so for legitimate scientific concerns regarding vaccine safety, rather than the pseudoscience often propagated by those in the anti-vaccine camp asserting that vaccines are ineffective.  And finally, are you supposed to make decisions that are good for the population as a whole? Or do you base your decision on what's best for your own child as an individual? I think we all put our children first in most situations.

Take care,
Jeff  :)
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« Reply #635 on: March 25, 2012, 04:12:45 pm »

I know most people who read iheartfruit are not going to be big fans of vaccination.  I really wrote this up to appeal to a more mainstream audience.  I'm facebook friends with a bunch of scientists. 
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« Reply #636 on: March 25, 2012, 09:26:00 pm »

Hi Jeff,

Your daily menus are looking as beautiful as ever. It looks to me as if you are perfectly adapted to this diet.
Would I be correct in thinking that you are so happy with it that it is more or less continuing of its own accord? If that is not too vague a question?

Re vaccination, you say :
"... I know most people who read iheartfruit are not going to be big fans of vaccination. ..."

I'd just like to go on record as saying that I belong to that group of not big fans. And what you have written makes me even more against it.
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« Reply #637 on: March 27, 2012, 04:40:34 am »

Yeah, I haven't had to think about my diet very much recently. 
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« Reply #638 on: April 01, 2012, 06:50:09 pm »

All of the food this week was organic and it was all consumed whole (no juicing, no blending, as usual):

3/26 – tomatoes, dates.
3/27 – tomatoes, dates.
3/28 – tomatoes, dates.
3/29 – tomatoes, dates.
3/30 – tomatoes, dates.
3/31 – tomatoes, 15 bananas.
4/1 – 2 pineapples, 15 bananas.

On Thursday afternoon, we had Foothill Soils (http://www.foothillsoils.com/) dump 13 cubic yards of organic compost on our driveway.  My wife took Friday off work, and I spent most of the day moving it to the backyard and putting it in our newly built raised beds.  I enjoy doing something useful while exercising, rather than exercising for exercising’s sake.  I finished Friday, and 13 yards ended up being just the right amount.  Despite being outside all day with my shirt off, my back turned only slightly pink, whereas a number of years ago doing this would have gotten me seriously burnt.  I think my diet has caused me to not burn as easily, in particular the fact that I’ve been eating a lot of organic cherry tomatoes from Mexico these days probably helped (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16465309).  The past couple days, we’ve been working on getting some of our summer plants in the ground, mainly tomatoes, zucchini, & cucumbers. 

I'm going to do something unusual, and actually write about food this week!  I didn’t mention it last week, but I actually ate the last of our supply of pomegranates on March 23rd.  I’ll miss them.  Looking back, it looks like the first pomegranate I ate last fall was on October 24.  So I was able to eat pomegranates for about 5 months.  I think that is pretty good.  The reason why they lasted that long was because I had a lot stored in our fridge.  Last year it looks like our pomegranates lasted until February 21.  Over the past year we bought a 2nd refrigerator, and so we got about one more month of pomegranates out of it.  These pomegranates I was eating in March were bought in December.  I think they can’t be stored for much longer than that.  In March, my experience was that about 30% of the pomegranates we stored had already gone bad.  Today's breakfast was one pineapple, and then 7 or 8 bananas.  And today's 2nd meal was identical to the first.  My tongue was feeling sore by the end of the 2nd pineapple today.  I'm not sure if I can really eat two pineapples per day or not without hurting my mouth too much.  I’m tiring of eating bananas & dates, and am really looking forward to the organic peaches I should be able to get sometime in the 2nd half of May.  I could buy conventional peaches from Chile now, but I'm not going to do that.  I'll wait for the organic California peaches to ripen up.

Take care,
Jeff  :)
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« Reply #639 on: April 01, 2012, 10:55:25 pm »

Hi Jeff,

I'm with you about being able to do something practical and exercise at same time. I think that's why I appreciate gardening nowadays whereas in past I was a reluctant gardener.

The compost sounds great to give your garden lotsa nutrients. It reminds me of last year when I had my garden blitz and had compost and mulch delivered on driveway. The load was shared amongst many hands to get it to my backyard by wheelbarrows. I would like to do same again in Spring but may do it on my own or maybe just one or two helpers. My goal is to supress grass weeds around fruit orchard area (yet again!) with newspaper then put mulch on to hold paper down and provide all the other things that are good about mulch - less evaporation, nutrients etc. Maybe you could share some pics of new vegie beds.

It should be fun planting! Are you still thinking you will plant root vegetables in future and join your family in eating them?

Take care,
Jenny <3 <3
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« Reply #640 on: April 02, 2012, 01:13:43 pm »

Hi Jeff,

I know what you mean about the pineapples. If I eat more than one per day (which is common in the winter), I blend one of them, otherwise, the inside of mouth gets irritated. I guess blending is not an option for you. For me, pineapple is the only fruit that I blend on a regular basis because it's one my favorite fruits --- blended or otherwise.

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« Reply #641 on: April 03, 2012, 01:22:46 am »

Early spring does seem to be the most difficult season for fruitarians, with few varieties on offer - somehow I find it harder than midwinter.

Pineapples are so delicious, but they usually cause me too much pain, so I seldom chance one.
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« Reply #642 on: April 03, 2012, 04:51:32 am »

Rudy - yeah, I'm sure blending pineapple does make it quite a bit easier on the mouth.  That does sound tempting, but I think I'll try to avoid it.   :)

You may notice that I've been eating quite a bit more simply than I was around this time last year.  Last March-April, I was having a lot boxes of organic fruit shipped to our house.  I was getting blood oranges, cherimoya, & white sapote shipped from different places in California, and also papayas, ice cream bananas, black sapotes, & sapodillas shipped from Florida.  Also, last year at this time, I was also eating a lot of berries, which aren't cheap. 

This year I've been eating mostly regular cavendish bananas, dates, pineapple, & tomatoes.  This is a less expensive way to eat.  My wife and I are in the process of refinancing the mortgage on our house from 30 years to 15 years.  In the long run, I think it will be great to get our house paid for that much sooner.  In the short run, I'm trying to help out by not spending so much on food. 
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« Reply #643 on: April 05, 2012, 12:32:16 pm »

Hi Jeff,
I think your simple diet is great, and getting organic surely helps!  The conventional imports I find never have a rich flavor or feel satisfying, even if they look good :)  I like that pineapples give a bite - it reminds me to eat a smaller portion before I even start.

take  care,
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« Reply #644 on: April 07, 2012, 04:23:14 am »

Great to hear from you Sunmaiden!   :)
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